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но на то они и рейтинг, если слишком зашкварно фанится то опустит к таким-же. много рейтинг не напоришся на нуба/фанера

I disagree completely. I don't like turbo because the game isn't designed around it. In turbo a lot of concepts or strategies don't work at all, which isn't fun for me. Also, dota wasn't designed around competitive gameplay. If you go back to warcraft 3 era, dota was designed around fun mechanics and novel gameplay. That depth of gameplay naturally created an amazing competitive game. The fun casual gimmicks FED the competitive side. When they started dumbing down the game and removing mechanics, both the casual and the competitive side suffered. That's why dota player counts are down. That's why TI isn't as big as it was. And that's why dota classic is growing.(edited)
Dota was always a fun game first, but a game based around limited resources and weird gimmicks. Hardcore but fun. Turbo removes a lot of those which makes the game less fun.
To draw a weird comparison. Dark Souls and Resident Evil are both "hardcore" but not competitive. Dota is sorta like that. Difficult but ultimately meant to be fun.

btw you can open new strategies in turbo that you can't play in ranked lool
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also good gamemode for chilling with friends
Some, but a lot of earlygame or resource light strategies suffer. Does anyone play Chen in turbo? lol

i did, that was fun
I like my resource starved support playstyle.
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Not knocking people enjoying Turbo, but it's not for me.
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like not normal way, i have assembled armlet and desolator
its your right
One issue with modern dota is that farming and avoiding fighting is dead. It's brawl all the time. Split push or gimmicks are dead.
yeah that is rly boring





